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Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:52 pm

  • That is what I tried first kind of :). Assume the neighbors are all teamed up and wishing to see fireworks and the helmsman is out for Old Ladies blood. He will either blow up the Martyr to kill your queen or chase down your queen with the helmsman. His goal is to kill the queen and hope to capture the engineers and navigator once the queen is dead and direction can not be changed.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:59 pm

  • rlin81 wrote:That is what I tried first kind of :). Assume the neighbors are all teamed up and wishing to see fireworks and the helmsman is out for Old Ladies blood. He will either blow up the Martyr to kill your queen or chase down your queen with the helmsman. His goal is to kill the queen and hope to capture the engineers and navigator once the queen is dead and direction can not be changed.

    In that case, try to force a pirate+queen to fruitlessly chase one of those smugglers while that Martyr continues on toward Haik. The idea is to get the Queen out of that station temporarily, especially at 2x, and especially following a route that Helmsman can't follow.

    Really, very little deviation from what I originally said
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:18 pm

  • A 2x in general cannot chase a 3x unless the 3x is pointed generally in the direction of the 2x. The smuggler that is not arriving at a base is moving away from the pirate so the pirate will never catch it. If a pirate can't catch something it can't target it except in some weird cases where something pauses before moving. For example a new sub heading out or a navigator changing direction will somewhat pause before it heads in a direction allowing the pirate at times to target it even though it can't catch it.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:53 pm

  • rlin81 wrote:A 2x in general cannot chase a 3x unless the 3x is pointed generally in the direction of the 2x. The smuggler that is not arriving at a base is moving away from the pirate so the pirate will never catch it. If a pirate can't catch something it can't target it except in some weird cases where something pauses before moving. For example a new sub heading out or a navigator changing direction will somewhat pause before it heads in a direction allowing the pirate at times to target it even though it can't catch it.

    For my plan, I don't want the pirate catching that smuggler. The idea is that the pirate + queen leave the station, the invasion sub comes in, realizes he can't hold the station against that death sub (that should be rerouting to Dejongh) and the helmsman either leaves or gets captured. Afterwards, the pirate+queen return to Dejongh having failed to catch that smuggler, coming home to a secure outpost. If the Helmsman leaves to try and trigger the Martyr, gift it
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:50 pm

  • Yes but the helmsman wants queen's blood and doesn't care about dying to get it. Without the pirate targeting anything it would only travel at 1x allowing the enemy helmsman to capture the queen before it can find any form of safety. The pirate cannot target the smuggler because the smuggler is faster and moving away rather than towards. The queen and pirate then have to move out on their own. This leads to the problem of the helmsman capturing the queen before reinforcements may arrive.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:11 pm

  • The pirate can lock on to the smuggler with a bit of sleight of hand, but of course will fail because the smuggler gets to the outpost first. The pirate queen is supposed to leave Dejongh in a direction a Helmsman can't follow, and return behind the Engineers.

    I was under the impression you brought a question wishing for an answer, and my proposal is about as close as it gets.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:13 pm

  • Ah no I just put it up as perhaps a puzzle people can solve. There is a way to survive. I put a solution I thought later in the original post with small font.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:22 pm

  • Yeah, check the time stamp. Over 100 hours ago. This already happened.
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