Bigredsk10 wrote:I mean, the dad wants to play a strategy game with his kid. If I had a kid old enough I'd want to do the exact same thing. I think we should take subterfuge a little less seriously.

Way to go, you crushed them..

If a dad wants to play with his kid they can both use the same account. If you're using your kid who is potentially to young to even comprehend the game then you are essentially using them as a front for a sham second account.

Why would two different people have to use the same account? It's not remotely a front for a sham second account. First of all, they're new players, and from the sound of it, not being terribly successful. Do you really find it hard to believe that a dad and daughter would just want to try out a game together?

Of course they're working together, but lots of games I've been in have real-life friends who are working together all game. I don't see how this is any different. She's learning how to play the game and he's teaching her.

I dunno how the chat went, but I hope it wasn't a bad experience on their end. I think the overwhelming demographic of male 20-30 players in online strategy games is a problem. Lets not scare off the little bit of diversity we have.

The one area that I agree is that when he started bragging I'd get annoyed too. Because bragging is annoying and grounds for a war (not joking, ha. I love rounding up allies and telling them so-and-so is being belligerent).

Just win, congratulate them on a good match, and move on.

Bigredsk10 wrote:Why would two different people have to use the same account? It's not remotely a front for a sham second account. First of all, they're new players, and from the sound of it, not being terribly successful. Do you really find it hard to believe that a dad and daughter would just want to try out a game together?

Of course they're working together, but lots of games I've been in have real-life friends who are working together all game. I don't see how this is any different. She's learning how to play the game and he's teaching her.

I dunno how the chat went, but I hope it wasn't a bad experience on their end. I think the overwhelming demographic of male 20-30 players in online strategy games is a problem. Lets not scare off the little bit of diversity we have.

The one area that I agree is that when he started bragging I'd get annoyed too. Because bragging is annoying and grounds for a war (not joking, ha. I love rounding up allies and telling them so-and-so is being belligerent).

Just win, congratulate them on a good match, and move on.

It is beyond me how you do not see how ridiculously unfair this advantage is. At a MINIMUM two people working together/sharing screens are getting an advantage of map Intel based in the other persons radar range (why even have an intelligence officer?). At a maximum they are acting as one person, coordinating attacks and letting one person win/propping up one account. They could potentially have one account that always loses and the other that always wins.

Am I saying that this father/daughter combo is doing it? No, not at all. But it opens the door for what I described above. If competent players start doing this on a widespread bases it wikk ruin the game. Lobby games will be incredibly skewed against players with one account.

Bigredsk10 wrote:I mean, the dad wants to play a strategy game with his kid. If I had a kid old enough I'd want to do the exact same thing. I think we should take subterfuge a little less seriously.

Way to go, you crushed them..

My thoughts exactly. Come on guys, it's a game.

The problem I have is the activity times. Ive been documentig them and they both always log off at same time. This is what raissed my suspicions and leads me to believe theres something shady. They log in and out together

There's nothing in the rules about logging on at the same time. I frequently schedule online times with my allies early in the morning and before going to bed.

If someone isn't online and you message them, pretty frequently they'll open the game to read the message and respond, and once they resolve what they wanted to talk about, they'll just both log off around the same time. I often use this information to guess who's allied together. It's part of the game. Nothing shady.

I think that there is a very fine line between working together and having a second account/multuboxing. At some point you effectively have two accounts acting as one. Guess that's just me though.

Wether or not they're family, in the same room, logging on at the same times, or just allies - if there are some players working together in a way you don't like, find some allies and do something about it.

People don't always broadcast it, and when they do it may be do late. Seems unfair to me but I guess the prevailing opinion is that it's basically okay to have two accounts working in sync, sharing screens/Intel on a multi game basis.

connor3491 wrote:People don't always broadcast it, and when they do it may be do late. Seems unfair to me but I guess the prevailing opinion is that it's basically okay to have two accounts working in sync, sharing screens/Intel on a multi game basis.

I agree that it's a tad unfair, but why do we care so much? If it were a tournament, or a competitive league, then maybe it'd be worth enforcing a "no friends/relatives" rule for games, but it's a public match we're talking about. I think it's great that a father and daughter can enjoy this game together, and I don't think anyone should let that ruin their day.