silverberg wrote:One guy in my 4 player game resigned 20 minutes before game start, but his initial push was already set. I sent a sub of 20 drillers to one of these ghost-settled outposts (10 drillers on a generator, with 1 shield by the time I get there), then a few hours later an enemy sub appeared with 39 subs pointed the same way. The way this was set up was I take the port, with 9 survivors, then the enemy comes through and takes the outpost with 29 left over (Again, 1 shield by the time he arrives.) I scheduled another sub of 20, set to arrive just after the enemy takes over, but it would prove not enough; he would survive with 9. I got it into my head to schedule my first sub to turn into a gift 20 minutes before arrival. So the ghost had 30 drillers and 2 shield by the time the enemy arrived, survived with 7, and I cleaned up within the hour, giving me the outpost with 13 survivors.

tl;dr gifted some subs to an outpost settled by a resigned player so the enemy couldn't hold the point.

Oh this is a strategy, whenever you capture a resigned-players outpost, you always send subs in increasing powers of 2 so that you can gift any number of subs you want, have those cancel out exactly with what any enemy is sending, and the rest of your drillers take the outpost.

One of the things I like most about Subterfuge is turtling up. I know a lot of you dislike people who turtle, or don't like to do it yourselves, but I love the gameplay in which you constantly get attacked by much stronger players around you who are eager to get to your precious bunch of specialists.

So in my last game I got stuck on this little generator (I know, should have been a factory but it wasn't possible to reach one at the time). Multiple players had already tried to take me out, and then Teal sent in 5 subs which were going to arrive at roughly the same time, sent from two different outposts:

- 1 sub with 0 drillers + assassin
- 1 sub with 103 drillers + assasin
- 1 sub with 72 drillers + asssasin
- 1 sub with 99 drillers + assasin
- 1 sub with 99 drillers.

I managed to schedule orders in which, with the right timing, I would lose 3 saboteurs and a double agent and no other drillers, but teal would get almost all of his subs back and his assasins. He would then simple return them and I would have to send in more saboteurs or other specialists. And I didn't like this.

My upcoming hire was a martyr. I scheduled my martyr to leave and it would hit the first sub right in a place were it would destroy all the subs. I scheduled the order, and left. In the mean time teal promoted a navigator to an admiral and the sub without the assassins started moving faster. It would hit my martyr earlier and it would destroy my outpost including all my specialists. When I saw what teal was doing, I gifted my martyr to teal. Then I launched a pirate to intercept the gift, which was converted in the mean time by the faster sub. It detonated and destroyed all his subs, leaving me unharmed. Another player told me teal had told the other players that I would be dead in two hours.. Oh I love this game

Short version: I killed 373 drillers & 4 assasins with a martyr and a pirate

Got my first win. Not nearly as exciting as you gents stories but it made my couple days. As i was sure for 48 hours before victory that I had it but didn't wanna jinx it by early posting.

nuxx wrote:Got my first win. Not nearly as exciting as you gents stories but it made my couple days. As i was sure for 48 hours before victory that I had it but didn't wanna jinx it by early posting.

I know that feeling, haha. It went from, "I got a medal for the first time! I'm the best!" to "I got first for the first time! I'm the best!" to "I broke 1300 rating! I'm the best!" and so forth.

thekorfballer wrote:Short version: I killed 373 drillers & 4 assasins with a martyr and a pirate

Brilliant work Korf .

evoid wrote:

thekorfballer wrote:Short version: I killed 373 drillers & 4 assasins with a martyr and a pirate

Brilliant work Korf .

Second that. I love these moments of brilliance too where the underdog bites back!

Also goes to show martyrs do have their time and place. I think most experienced players may subconsciously regard a martyr as a "noob hire". But here's an example of it being executed perfectly. (pun intended)

carter j burke wrote:

evoid wrote:

thekorfballer wrote:Short version: I killed 373 drillers & 4 assasins with a martyr and a pirate

Brilliant work Korf .

Second that. I love these moments of brilliance too where the underdog bites back!

Also goes to show martyrs do have their time and place. I think most experienced players may subconsciously regard a martyr as a "noob hire". But here's an example of it being executed perfectly. (pun intended)

Well, its not a noob hire when you need it, but it (sort of) is when you don't.

New best moment:

Just finished a game where I helped my ally assemble a helmsman/thief/engineer combo with two other engineers in the back of his empire. Seeing a sub attack finish with MORE than it started with was hilarious!

Helped him get his first gold medal. So much allied joy.

It is not actually mine, but it is one of my allies' best moments. There was an enemy player turtling in one base, and my ally had the outpost surrounded. Normally the outpost was really difficult to take, with 400 drillers or so, but there was also a martyr there. So my ally, who had 6 admirals and therefore speed factor 4, sent a single sub from one of the surrounding outposts. And because the player wasn't online in 2 and a half hours, the whole base went KABOOM! It was really funny to watch. The eliminated player was like ''What the hell happened?'' in the public chat.