v3xt wrote:tw2000, yes a 7th MoE does not decrease your driller production any more(unless it gives you negative production, has anyone ever actually had 7?), but because of the relation to driller cap and production, if your production is 0, your driller cap may as well be 0 to. Let's look at it this way. You have 5 factories and 3 generators. Your production is 90 a day, and your cap in 300. At this rate, it would take 3.3 days to reach your cap. If you hire a MoE, your production is 75, but your cap is 600, so it would take 8 days to reach your cap. Now lets say you have 6 of them. Your cap is 2100, and your production is 0. 2100/0 is an error, because you will never reach cap. Add a 7th one and it is still an error. Sure your production isn't decreased any more, but it would take an infinite amount of time for you to reach your cap. I guess technically there isn't a disadvantage to hiring a 7th one, but there's also no benefit to hiring him. This is not like the king, where no matter how many you have, it always makes your drillers more powerful, but it doesn't keep making your shields less powerful.

tw2000 wrote:

v3xt wrote:tw2000, yes a 7th MoE does not decrease your driller production any more(unless it gives you negative production, has anyone ever actually had 7?), but because of the relation to driller cap and production, if your production is 0, your driller cap may as well be 0 to. Let's look at it this way. You have 5 factories and 3 generators. Your production is 90 a day, and your cap in 300. At this rate, it would take 3.3 days to reach your cap. If you hire a MoE, your production is 75, but your cap is 600, so it would take 8 days to reach your cap. Now lets say you have 6 of them. Your cap is 2100, and your production is 0. 2100/0 is an error, because you will never reach cap. Add a 7th one and it is still an error. Sure your production isn't decreased any more, but it would take an infinite amount of time for you to reach your cap. I guess technically there isn't a disadvantage to hiring a 7th one, but there's also no benefit to hiring him. This is not like the king, where no matter how many you have, it always makes your drillers more powerful, but it doesn't keep making your shields less powerful.

Nope, there is an advantage. Players who work in pairs (and I've seen some around, they are usually friends in real life as well). An idea is that one of them can have a huge driller cap by having heaps of MoE's while the other has a huge driller production and a really low cap.

zerashi wrote:

tw2000 wrote:

v3xt wrote:tw2000, yes a 7th MoE does not decrease your driller production any more(unless it gives you negative production, has anyone ever actually had 7?), but because of the relation to driller cap and production, if your production is 0, your driller cap may as well be 0 to. Let's look at it this way. You have 5 factories and 3 generators. Your production is 90 a day, and your cap in 300. At this rate, it would take 3.3 days to reach your cap. If you hire a MoE, your production is 75, but your cap is 600, so it would take 8 days to reach your cap. Now lets say you have 6 of them. Your cap is 2100, and your production is 0. 2100/0 is an error, because you will never reach cap. Add a 7th one and it is still an error. Sure your production isn't decreased any more, but it would take an infinite amount of time for you to reach your cap. I guess technically there isn't a disadvantage to hiring a 7th one, but there's also no benefit to hiring him. This is not like the king, where no matter how many you have, it always makes your drillers more powerful, but it doesn't keep making your shields less powerful.

Nope, there is an advantage. Players who work in pairs (and I've seen some around, they are usually friends in real life as well). An idea is that one of them can have a huge driller cap by having heaps of MoE's while the other has a huge driller production and a really low cap.

Not really, you can gift out subs to people at their driller cap and they will still receive them. So the MoE doesn't really make this tactic more or less viable

The problem with that is that people will consider you just another player in the game, so you never make it to a very high number of drillers. If you many many MoE's then you can deter your potential enemies and it plays a big psychological role in the middlegame as well, making people want to be on your good side. The very fact that you can accommodate so many drillers will earn you more allies. The pair I have seen who didn't have MoE's failed to get very far (I think about 800 drillers or so). Then they got attacked by 4 people. I think I saw one player have 3 MoE's and 2 tinkerer's and eventually had 3 people feeding him drillers

v3xt wrote:Yeah if I saw someone had no production, I would immediately attack their factories and undefended outposts. It would be like if in a FPS you could carry 10 times as many magazines, but you didn't get any bullets.

zerashi wrote:

The problem with that is that people will consider you just another player in the game, so you never make it to a very high number of drillers. If you many many MoE's then you can deter your potential enemies and it plays a big psychological role in the middlegame as well, making people want to be on your good side. The very fact that you can accommodate so many drillers will earn you more allies. The pair I have seen who didn't have MoE's failed to get very far (I think about 800 drillers or so). Then they got attacked by 4 people. I think I saw one player have 3 MoE's and 2 tinkerer's and eventually had 3 people feeding him drillers

I suppose, but at this point were comparing apples to oranges. In the scenario of having a mass of MoE's you need to have other people feed you drillers to sustain the illusion that your a monster even though you have no production. So once you stop getting fed drillers your basically a sitting duck, if a very fat one. Once you go to war without allies backing you up the illusion will crumble.

As opposed to someone with a bunch of kings who has no need for allies sustaining him. Because he is an actual monster.

v3xt wrote:Yeah if I saw someone had no production, I would immediately attack their factories and undefended outposts. It would be like if in a FPS you could carry 10 times as many magazines, but you didn't get any bullets.

roadkiehl wrote:

v3xt wrote:Yeah if I saw someone had no production, I would immediately attack their factories and undefended outposts. It would be like if in a FPS you could carry 10 times as many magazines, but you didn't get any bullets.

True, but potential strategy:
1. Get 6 MoE's.
2. Send an opponent a "peace gift" of 6 MoE's
3. Laugh at opponent as you attack.