Competitive Guide

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Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:08 am

  • "One of the best ways to use the Martyr to break a turtle is to send it at a distant ally's base where the lane is within explosion range of the turtle base-- and have your ally send a single drill in the same lane but opposite direction to detonate it. The only way to stop this is with a sacrificial pirate, or to run away." (not quoting because it would be very hard to find in such a long text)

    I was giving this thread a re-read for the old times sake, and this thing irritated me as people tend to think if this was true and play accordingly. I have also heard people other than Kevlar talking about this. So let me correct you folks, but the only way to stop this is not with a sacrificial pirate. You can just target the sub with the single drill coming from the opposite direction, and thus denying the Martyr from engaging in combat and also wasting a ton of time of that Martyr.

    If the opposite player is smarter and sends multiple subs of 1, just get out a Pirate + Nav to kill them all in quick succession. If you don't have Pirate/Nav (90% of the time , both) as a turtle, you won't live long anyway, because then the offense has tons of ways to kill you.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:58 am

  • How do you target the martyr with a single drill (without a pirate) if it was launched to his ally's base and not yours? What Kevlar was saying is that the player with a martyr and his ally basically coordinate an explosion to occur over the turtle...
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:02 pm

  • strooch wrote:How do you target the martyr with a single drill (without a pirate) if it was launched to his ally's base and not yours? What Kevlar was saying is that the player with a martyr and his ally basically coordinate an explosion to occur over the turtle...

    I meant targeting it with a pirate.
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Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:10 pm

  • But then you are sacrificing the pirate to kill the martyr, correct?

    edit: Never mind, I misread what you said originally. I see what you're saying now: use the pirate+nav to kill the ally's single-drill sub(s) that were sent to intercept the martyr over your base. Good tip!
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Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:45 pm

  • The one surefire way to win is break NAP and tell public chat the other person was the one who did it XD
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:20 pm

  • You know, there is one more way of using a pirate, gifting it and having one more sub witn 1 driller just behind that gift
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