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beserker

Global: destroys 1 enemy driller for every sub you have currently launched
Local: every global efect your opponent uses in combat with your beserker will be used on him after the specialist phase. Your opponents global effect still are applied to you.

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Everyone has been coming up with a specialist to negate the king. While these are effective they usualy rely on effect negation wich I never really liked in anything. So here is my solution. Fight fire with fire and give your opponent a taste of thier own medicine. What do you think? Is this more, less, or equally effective at reigning in the king?

The Global can be easily abused by sending 1 driller subs everywhere on their longest route, then repeat - average player with 4 factories sending 6 drillers to 6 different friendly outposts ever 6 hours ~12 hours away allows the Berserker to deal 48 driller damage. Quite OP.
And The Local would mess up a bunch of stuff - if enemy has a Sabo, both subs will return? If they have a Double Agent, only drillers will die because the effect procs twice? Etc, etc.
My verdict is: not a good idea. (Where are the drawbacks!?)

pandasecret wrote:The Global can be easily abused by sending 1 driller subs everywhere on their longest route, then repeat - average player with 4 factories sending 6 drillers to 6 different friendly outposts ever 6 hours ~12 hours away allows the Berserker to deal 48 driller damage. Quite OP.
And The Local would mess up a bunch of stuff - if enemy has a Sabo, both subs will return? If they have a Double Agent, only drillers will die because the effect procs twice? Etc, etc.
My verdict is: not a good idea. (Where are the drawbacks!?)

I believe I made a typo. I meant to say global. Sorry my mind was racing and I beleve I may have mixed up the two words. I agree that that would not have worked well at all. I also agree that his global effect is a bit op. I could make it were every sub with at least 20 drillers launched destroys 1 driller. Thanks for the input.

beserker

Global: destroys 1 enemy driller for every sub you have with more than 20 drillers currently launched
Local: every global efect your opponent uses in combat with your beserker will be used on him after the specialist phase. Your opponents global effect still are applied to you.

I changed his global effect in order to make him not op.

Sorry what? Global? So like... Every sub you sent with 20 or more drillers destroys 1 driller from all other subs in motion?

Seems way too complicated for me

r10t-- wrote:Sorry what? Global? So like... Every sub you sent with 20 or more drillers destroys 1 driller from all other subs in motion?

Seems way too complicated for me

I'm a bit lost too. Destroys one every time your berserker runs into something? Or every time your subs run into something?

Sorry, but I don't think it's a good idea.

Hmm, the global is sort of confusing so I am taking it off. I feel he is still worth it with just the local.

Beserker

Local: every global efect your opponent uses in combat with your beserker will be used on him after the specialist phase. Your opponents global effect still are applied to you.