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As the question says.
Has anyone ever gifted a specialist to an opponent with the express purpose of altering the outcome of a battle?

I'm thinking of e.g. Gifting a king at an inopportune moment, thus dropping all of an opponents shields, or gifting an admiral and speeding up a sub to change the impact time.

Just wondering whether this is a tactic that could realistically be employed or whether the opportunity would be so small as to forget about it

I'm specifically referring to gifting the specialist to the person you are in combat with. Not helping out a colleague etc

Oh it's reality. Amongst experienced players with strong alliances, this is a common tactic.

There was a match that 6payh posted a video of where he and TheStash were gifting three kings between them depending on who was attacking. Very efficient.

And in my last match, my ally was attacking a heavily defended an outpost. My ally was about to take this outpost with almost 100% certainty, except in the fog of war the enemies gifted engineers: prompting more drills to be recovered per small attack and hence my ally lose his attempt to gain the outpost. The timing was so precise, we wondered if they were cheating (highly doubt it), and if was effective because it fooled his time machine.

If allies are at the level of gifting specialists, you can all but rule out a betrayal or A backstab between the two.

I haven't seen many instances of gifting your enemy specialists except for the martyr. If someone is going to takeout your martyr, sometimes gifting it will let you detonate it in a more beneficial location.

carter j burke wrote:Oh it's reality. Amongst experienced players with strong alliances, this is a common tactic.

There was a match that 6payh posted a video of where he and TheStash were gifting three kings between them depending on who was attacking. Very efficient.

And in my last match, my ally was attacking a heavily defended an outpost. My ally was about to take this outpost with almost 100% certainty, except in the fog of war the enemies gifted engineers: prompting more drills to be recovered per small attack and hence my ally lose his attempt to gain the outpost. The timing was so precise, we wondered if they were cheating (highly doubt it), and if was effective because it fooled his time machine.

If allies are at the level of gifting specialists, you can all but rule out a betrayal or A backstab between the two.

Uhhhh.....Thats not what he means. This is all planned between allies. What he means is, say, you using the negative effects of a specialist to change the outcome of a battle between you and your ally at the risk of your enemy using the positive effects of that specialist.

And yes I have gifted a martyr before and succeded in blowing up an enemy mine
But no I haven't gifted any promoted specialists, if thats what you're saying

I could see gifting a MoE as being potentially useful. If your opponent was nowhere near his energy cap, the reduced production would be more noticeable than his increased energy.

I could see a a player being gifted 6 MoE's to stop his production

tw2000 wrote:I could see a a player being gifted 6 MoE's to stop his production

Then again why would you have six MoE's? Or teo for that matter?

My bad.

Then yes, I've gifted a moe to slow a players drill production. and I've gifted a martyr only to detonate it from another location.

http://youtu.be/WpkU7yI5yps

I've always wanted to gift a specialist to an enemy, but never had the opportunity to make it work.

I have, however, gifted drillers to an enemy at one outpost in order to put them over their driller cap so that a different factory I was attacking would not be able to produce the drillers he expected, allowing me to capture it. That was fun. =)

I think back in the day I did end up gifting my king to an enemy player as he had 2 outposts without many drillers but with 20 shields each that I wanted to take. It wasn't a game winning move but it was definitely a strategic move to gain an advantage. He had a low driller count and production so in the long run the kind didn't help him.