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The commodore is promoted from the helmsman. Here are the stats:

Global: All subs with specialists present have 1.5x speed
Local: This sub has 2x speed.

It is the inverse of a admiral

I like it

I dunno. The downside to the admiral is that you specialists still move at 1x speed. This is pretty important; otherwise it would be pretty overpowered. If there's a way to negate this downside, it should be expensive. A1.25x speed boost that stacks instead would put it in line with the king, requiring four hires to negate its negative.

jaykay077 wrote:I dunno. The downside to the admiral is that you specialists still move at 1x speed. This is pretty important; otherwise it would be pretty overpowered. If there's a way to negate this downside, it should be expensive. A1.25x speed boost that stacks instead would put it in line with the king, requiring four hires to negate its negative.

In my option Four hires to get 1.5x speed on all subs isn't the most unbalanced thing you can get for 4 hires. Also. not every specialists is perfectly balanced, that's what makes it fun.

Here's a possible negative: admiral and commodore don't stack together.

Commodore's downside negates the admirals global and visa Versa

I personally find it very important that specialists can't move quicker. If they could you could zoom specialist around and then.....I mean, it would be pretty OP to see all your subs with specialists moving at 2x speed.....

tw2000 wrote:I personally find it very important that specialists can't move quicker. If they could you could zoom specialist around and then.....I mean, it would be pretty OP to see all your subs with specialists moving at 2x speed.....

Okay, maybe tone it down about to 1.3x speed?

A more suited promotion for the helmsman, in my opinion, would be to say that the global ability would be all helmsman and promoted helmsman add an extra 0.5 to the speed factor, and local would be 0.5 more.

tw2000 wrote:A more suited promotion for the helmsman, in my opinion, would be to say that the global ability would be all helmsman and promoted helmsman add an extra 0.5 to the speed factor, and local would be 0.5 more.

So if you have one commodore helmsman have 2.5x speed, admiral has 2.5x local and smuggler has 3.5x local? Seems even more overpowered with stacking then my original idea.

nojo34 wrote:

tw2000 wrote:A more suited promotion for the helmsman, in my opinion, would be to say that the global ability would be all helmsman and promoted helmsman add an extra 0.5 to the speed factor, and local would be 0.5 more.

So if you have one commodore helmsman have 2.5x speed, admiral has 2.5x local and smuggler has 3.5x local? Seems even more overpowered with stacking then my original idea.

Only if you have a promoted helmsman or helmsman on the sub (as in, a helmsman and admiral would be 2.5, a smuggler and a helmsman would be 3.5, but just a smuggler would be 3).

tw2000 wrote:

nojo34 wrote:

tw2000 wrote:A more suited promotion for the helmsman, in my opinion, would be to say that the global ability would be all helmsman and promoted helmsman add an extra 0.5 to the speed factor, and local would be 0.5 more.

So if you have one commodore helmsman have 2.5x speed, admiral has 2.5x local and smuggler has 3.5x local? Seems even more overpowered with stacking then my original idea.

Only if you have a promoted helmsman or helmsman on the sub (as in, a helmsman and admiral would be 2.5, a smuggler and a helmsman would be 3.5, but just a smuggler would be 3).

That makes more sense. In theory you get get x4 Speed with smuggler helmsman commodore?