A list of Suspected Multiboxers

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:26 am

  • carter j burke wrote:I hate multi boxers as much as anyone but we need to stop and think. This "name and shame" thread is utter flawed and toxic.

    * toxic because anyone can list a name and they are assumed guilty
    * flawed motive because it's disgruntled players word against another
    * if you're a good player you're often accused of cheating/multi boxing
    * the community is sadly declining, and less people are coming to the forums
    And most importantly...
    * If a boxers names are listed, he just creates new accounts.

    Unfortunately there is no mature anti-multibox solution without cooperation of the developers. Only the developers can make 1) new accounts harder to create, 2) randomise servers that people connect too, 3) track device ID/ip address to hunt for boxers.


    Great point. I just recently have had an incident where I was falsely accused. Falsely? Well, you will be the judge.

    The history: Me and my gf have been playing for about a year, about 60% on same server and about 40% on separates. We never used eachothers account to do anything, nor hid the fact we were a couple. Whether we were allied or not depended on circumstances (other alliances, map positioning, interest), and we often fought eachother, and had no above average success in any game. As games go, as the mines started popping up and the countdown began, it was always every man for himself.
    We play mostly unrated. This is because we kind of suck at rated (emphasis on betrayal, double alliances and espionage) and I've had such a bad experience one time. It was my own noobish mistake (I gifted a large sum of drillers, and forgot it was a rated game) and I was not just quickly eliminated, but insulted on public and private chat and made to look like a bad guy. The game of 10 ended with no survivors except the two abusive dorks.

    Actual story: We finally log on another rated game, and this weird virgin dude with no previous games gifts my gf drillers, outposts and agents in the first few hrs, because he likes her screen name or something. Even buys here 7 medals at the beginning of the game for no reason whatsoever. I tell her others are going to think it's cheating, but what the hell, she takes his stuff.
    He never logs in again.
    I get put in a teamchat with everyone except them, concerning multiboxing. I tell them what happened, then we get attacked from everyone and that's that.

    I saw a post a while back about making a system for measuring how often two players play together, how many times they're allied, how much they fight. Maybe making public notes on players possible. Now I don't expect anything enymore, but expecting players to solve this themselves is a bit much.
    This game is a rough cut diamond, and I feel divided between having to play unrated with noobs or rated, but without my girl. People find it suspicious if you play with a girlfriend, but they don't find unbreakable alliances suspicious. Since this is a game of elimination already, cheating is a much more profound issue. The game depends on lying, accusing, he-says-she-says tactics, and it's impossible to tell how much is real and how much is just to get rid of competition, especially in rated. Even in such 'glaringly obvious' cases as I described.
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Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:01 am

  • @biopunk. I loved your novel, can I get my copy signed? Lol

    Before the incident, I see nothing wrong with the way you play with your GF. I applaud you for not always teaming with her.

    So about the incident. It's really unfortunate that he decided to gift her everything. I assume the game ha over so there isn't much I can do to help.

    I do want to mention, I would have done the same thing in there situation. If I see that happen in my games, I 100% would pounce on top of them. I don't know what you specifically said, idk. Seems like they did the right thing and you just got caught in the crossfire.
    Simply put, my job here is to keep the forums afloat through any means necessary
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Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:38 am

  • @nojo34

    Honestly, I thought it was a setup, after the reaction. I've never ever seen anyone do this (gift someone drillers and outposts from the get go) but I have seen a lot of people acting stupid (being overly nice to her in chat and diplomacy) though they are noobs and usually don't last long in the game, or go afk.
    So when the guy gifted her stuff he acompanied it with a slimy asskissing attention seeking message, so I think it was for real, kind of.
    But then he went afk, and I thought maybe it was to frame another player. But srsly, who the hell would multibox and buy someone medals just to frame them for multiboxing?
    She was eliminated just recently in the game, I'm still hanging on.
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Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:45 am

  • @biopunk

    Yeah it's extremely strange for somebody to spend real money, on a setup in that fashion. It would make some sense if they didn't buy the medals and just gift the subs as a set up. That's really strange.
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Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:55 pm

  • I played an L2 game and 3 users gifted everything to one of them. They still lost :), so either someone convinced two unenthusiastic friends to start a game, or the player is a bad multi-boxer
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:46 am

  • nojo34 wrote:@Carter J Burke.

    I emailed the devs, and they said that solving multiboxing is much harder to fix/track than just looking for an IP address because say three different people are playing subterfuge from say, there work office and one of them multiboxers and the other two don't. The devs would ban IP, thus removing the multiboxers, but ALSO getting rid of the two completely legit players from the game.


    Why can't the developers just set up a proper ranked game where players are placed randomly? Wouldn't this fix the problem?
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Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:56 pm

  • JonnyMontrchet, King Benjamin, and Arlington Partridge are setting up another game together right now, called The Palmer Chalice.
    I recommend players join to take them down. I'll try to do so myself, but I'll need to wait until it's almost full. They've kicked me from their games before because I tell everyone they're working together.
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:14 pm

  • wow just saw my name on this list!

    If there's anything I can provide to prove I'm innocent I'm happy to provide it. I can create screen caps of my games (with chat logs of any player I'm supposed to be also playing as)...

    I do remember one game people accused me of having multiple accounts, but in reality the guy I was helping was just very willing to send me specialists in exchange for keeping him alive. But yeah, as I said.. what can I do to rectify this?
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:18 pm

  • Well, if you care about the game enough to come here and actually participate you're probably not stupid enough to be a multiboxer.
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:54 pm

  • colonelblair wrote:wow just saw my name on this list!

    If there's anything I can provide to prove I'm innocent I'm happy to provide it. I can create screen caps of my games (with chat logs of any player I'm supposed to be also playing as)...

    I do remember one game people accused me of having multiple accounts, but in reality the guy I was helping was just very willing to send me specialists in exchange for keeping him alive. But yeah, as I said.. what can I do to rectify this?

    I'll take you off. I saw your vid, and like Aclo said if you care enough about the game to come here you are most likely legit.
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