NAP's and courtesy.
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:53 am(Nojo, if you think this is better suited for off topic, that's fine. I wasn't sure.)
Baaa! I'm a Tall goat.
We all know NAP's, those wonderful little agreements that keep you safe. There's some discussion over what constitutes breaking a NAP or what you can or can't do while you have a NAP with somebod, but there are a few basic things that everybody agrees on.
-While you have a NAP with somebody, you can't attack them, and they can't attack you.
-If you want to attack somebody, you need to give them a warning that the NAP is ending. Customarily 24 hours, but it depends on the agreement. Explicitly stating this part is obviously recommended.
-During the 24 hour notice period, no party can attack the other, as the NAP is still in effect.
I don't think anybody is going to dispute the general idea of these. We're all familiar with them.
So, let's make a... 'hypothetical' scenario. We have a game, and you ask somebody for a NAP, they agree, and 24 hours notice is established. Then, as you talk and make some other allies, the idea comes up to attack the person you just made the NAP with. You politely give them notice, apologize for breaking it so soon after making it. (Let's say about two hours later.) but such is subterfuge.
You then come back the next day to find the person had launched at you almost 12 hours before the warning period has ended. This is obviously not within the terms of the NAP, and you remind them as such. So far, it's been civil and you feel a bit bad about what seems to be several other people ganging up on this person, but that's the game.
Soon afterword, the person comes back and says that they are justified in what they're doing becasue they forgot. Oh, and the NAP was so short. They then accuse you of being purposefully manipulative and only making the NAP to get a private sheild, despite this not being how a NAP works. You try to explain it to them, but they continue ranting about how there's now a coalition against them and that you are ganging up becasue they're new and that you are being dishonest and really he forgot about it so you should just calm down becasue it was a mistake but I'm also not going to stop who's in this coalition you're just targeting me that's not fun.
Obviously this isn't hypothetical, it just happened batween me and another player. I wouldn't bring pointless arguments like this up except this person has both chosen to make it public and directly called me manipulative and unfair. I still appogize for breaking it so soon, and the amount of people fighting you, but I'm not going to back down becasue you might get upset. Stop being petty and put on your big boy pants. I'm done with this.
Baaa! I'm a Tall goat.
We all know NAP's, those wonderful little agreements that keep you safe. There's some discussion over what constitutes breaking a NAP or what you can or can't do while you have a NAP with somebod, but there are a few basic things that everybody agrees on.
-While you have a NAP with somebody, you can't attack them, and they can't attack you.
-If you want to attack somebody, you need to give them a warning that the NAP is ending. Customarily 24 hours, but it depends on the agreement. Explicitly stating this part is obviously recommended.
-During the 24 hour notice period, no party can attack the other, as the NAP is still in effect.
I don't think anybody is going to dispute the general idea of these. We're all familiar with them.
So, let's make a... 'hypothetical' scenario. We have a game, and you ask somebody for a NAP, they agree, and 24 hours notice is established. Then, as you talk and make some other allies, the idea comes up to attack the person you just made the NAP with. You politely give them notice, apologize for breaking it so soon after making it. (Let's say about two hours later.) but such is subterfuge.
You then come back the next day to find the person had launched at you almost 12 hours before the warning period has ended. This is obviously not within the terms of the NAP, and you remind them as such. So far, it's been civil and you feel a bit bad about what seems to be several other people ganging up on this person, but that's the game.
Soon afterword, the person comes back and says that they are justified in what they're doing becasue they forgot. Oh, and the NAP was so short. They then accuse you of being purposefully manipulative and only making the NAP to get a private sheild, despite this not being how a NAP works. You try to explain it to them, but they continue ranting about how there's now a coalition against them and that you are ganging up becasue they're new and that you are being dishonest and really he forgot about it so you should just calm down becasue it was a mistake but I'm also not going to stop who's in this coalition you're just targeting me that's not fun.
Obviously this isn't hypothetical, it just happened batween me and another player. I wouldn't bring pointless arguments like this up except this person has both chosen to make it public and directly called me manipulative and unfair. I still appogize for breaking it so soon, and the amount of people fighting you, but I'm not going to back down becasue you might get upset. Stop being petty and put on your big boy pants. I'm done with this.