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Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:40 am
by rracer2
I noticed something weird in my last game that I don't think was supposed to happen. I had attacked another player (Brown) and captured 3 of his specialists, all held captive at one of my bases. He attacked that base and I couldn't defend it in time, so to prevent him from getting his specialists back as quickly, I released them one tick before his sub hit (I was online at the time, there were 11 minutes left until his sub would hit the base).

Here's what happened: the sub with the released specialists launched towards his nearest base. On the next tick, when his incoming sub collided with that sub and landed at the base, it suddenly caused the released specialists to redirect, and they changed to start heading towards one of my other bases. According to time machine they would have continued to a base under my control and would have sat there captured instead of returning to him. (This didn't happen because he had a pirate nearby and ended up intercepting the sub of released specialists to get them to return to him).

This definitely didn't seem like intended functionality because it was essentially letting me hold on to his captured specialists - anyone else experienced something like this? I'm guessing it's similar to the saboteur bug and has to do with the fact that I launched on the last tick before he landed.

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:34 pm
by mathwhiz9
Not entirely sure what's going on here... pics would help us out :D

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:24 pm
by niverio
rracer2 wrote:I noticed something weird in my last game that I don't think was supposed to happen. I had attacked another player (Brown) and captured 3 of his specialists, all held captive at one of my bases. He attacked that base and I couldn't defend it in time, so to prevent him from getting his specialists back as quickly, I released them one tick before his sub hit (I was online at the time, there were 11 minutes left until his sub would hit the base).

Here's what happened: the sub with the released specialists launched towards his nearest base. On the next tick, when his incoming sub collided with that sub and landed at the base, it suddenly caused the released specialists to redirect, and they changed to start heading towards one of my other bases. According to time machine they would have continued to a base under my control and would have sat there captured instead of returning to him. (This didn't happen because he had a pirate nearby and ended up intercepting the sub of released specialists to get them to return to him).

This definitely didn't seem like intended functionality because it was essentially letting me hold on to his captured specialists - anyone else experienced something like this? I'm guessing it's similar to the saboteur bug and has to do with the fact that I launched on the last tick before he landed.

Yeah I guess this might be a bug.

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:50 am
by rracer2
Here are a few screenshots to explain.

Edit: Looks like they added backwards so you'll have to look from bottom to top. Brown sent a bunch of subs to take over my outpost. I used the saboteur on the first and the double agent on the second, then released his specialists right before the third hit and took over the outpost. They were headed to his base but redirected to one of my bases when his sub took over the outpost.

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:21 pm
by mathwhiz9
That is kinda strange, yes. I think the most likely solution to your problem is that you released them only 1 tick before he arrived, because sometimes subs don't launch correctly if another sub is arriving at the same time. Other than that, I can't see anything that would cause it to do this

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:43 pm
by rracer2
Then I'll have to try this again in a future game - it would be great if I could release an enemy's specialists at the last second and cause them to stay captured at a different one of my outposts!

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:38 am
by benzedreene
First of all, good job. Late releases to save time is indeed good tactics that you don't see too often.
Second, you can indeed voluntarily release to an enemy's outpost, which you're also attacking, to keep them captive. Pretty easy to do when it's an all-out war on several outposts.

That said, I can't explain what happened in your case. It shouldn't go towards one of *your* bases. Glitchy indeed.
Keep up the good plays !

Re: Released specialists didn't return to owner

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:17 am
by rracer2
Thanks! Only my 6th game so I'm still learning but I feel like I've done pretty well for myself so far.